this isn't just about jay carney. let's talk for a minute about the so-called mainstream media look, they have finally figured out that the rollout of obama care is a big giant mess. okay. better late than never. they are also doing stories about how the premiums are going to go up. that's all fine. but the next big story, bill, is the one that you are already touching on. did the president intentionally and that's the key word, did he intentionally mislead the american people when he said we can keep our own doctor, on own healthcare plan, our premiums wouldn't go up or, or, as you think it did he not even know -- signature healthcare reform plan. it comes down to one of two things. either, he was incompetent or, and this is a word i don't like to use with any president, he lied to the american people. that ought to be something that the mainstream media starts digging in to find out. >> we're in to tonight very very hard, but it's a very very tough thing. it isn't that i don't think that he did his research into oba